Henriette is just one more thing Louis takes from Philippe. In Versailles, Madame de Clermont is running round like a blue-arsed fly having discovered that her poison has gone missing. You mentioned the Charles Beaubrun painting of Louis & Philippewell I was noticing how this stunning piece travels around the palace in season one. And Philippe says calmly and quietly: There. Basically he can do what he wants, but she is not allowed to. Her breath falters: Im scared. And the look on Louis and Philippes faces as they both lean in to comfort her *sobs* Philippe says gently: There is nothing to fear. Henriette: How do you know? Philippe: do you remember before you were born? Louis stands outside: her life is in your hands, he says ominously. Of his power, of his country. Anne, Hi Jules haha that last message should have ended (I agree with you on all POINTS) not pints . on The finale. This is such a clever production team impeccable writing, brilliant cast, sumptuous sets and costumes. In any case, Philippe is Louis victim but definitely NOT Henriettes. NOT I dont want you to die, (that comes later) she says my problems cannot be solved, you know that. Way to avoid his question. Rohan is the Masked Man! Then she says: can you feel my skin? And reaches out first to Louis, then Philippe. I blame it all on Louis! Dance. elisabetta, oopsI should say figure, not charactersorry, english is not my first language . Maybe that is where she got the poison she used on Fabien? I believe Louis did love her. The opening episode of Versailles season two featured fortune tellers and laser beams. Sad to hear well have to wait a year for the next season Are there similar shows to this you could recommend? Does she want to end things with Louis? Thank you all! So Louis sequesters the palace. Okay, Im gonna walk you through what I see, so bear with me. John Clare 191 subscribers Henrietta of England, Duchess of Orlans rushes to Louis XIV's chambers after being poisoned. Because the whole world gave you counsel. Wow. Admittedly, its in the middle of a shag, when she is distracted, but still. Even if Louis were to let her go, she would then be relinquishing the love of her life to sit lonely and chaste in her apartments waiting for her husband, a man who feels no attraction or interest for her at all. Princess Henriette was born on 16 June 1644, on the eve of the Second Battle of Newbury during the Civil War, at Bedford House in Exeter, a seat of William Russell, 5th Earl of Bedford (1613-1700), who had recently returned to the Royalist side. I do. Especially in S1, I got the feeling that they gave a lot of Lorraines personality traits/reactions/behaviour to Philippe. Marchal picks up the dropped knife and lunges and he and Montcourt trade a few blows, with Marchal blocking then delivering a punch. Anne. Claudine doesnt know how long Henriette has left, but it is her wish to see you both. Also, Henriette has asked to be carried to the garden so that she might be surrounded by her favourite flowers. (Philippes gentle smile is so bittersweet here!) Louis pauses, shocked, Marchal grabs his belly, echoing that look, and Im all NOOOOOO! But his family and France are divided. There are only two men in this court who move freely between the outside world and the Kings inner circle, but only one who has never raised a single voice against him. Bontemps is surprised: the Kings brother? NO, BONTEMPS. Beating your wife was also quite legal, acceptable and, indeed, expected. Unfortunately, Louis paranoia and selfishness blind him to this. Also, his relationship with his brother was much less complicated than we see in this show, Philippe was a very simple person when it came to feelings, he was affectionate and friendly. I have never posted a comment on your website before and this will be the first time that I have ever written a comment here. Queen Marie-Thrse noted that everyone was talking about Henriettes death and the manner of it. Cultural factors, too, played a part. Yes, absolutely. I think Teresa is being a bit naive re. You have never been a man whos true. when Philippe asks if he were to die, her troubles would be solved. Henriette. I look forward to reading your reviews on the next series, when it comes out. Its just that his anger and upset (and yes, jealousy I think) affects him so much, because its just another way for his brother to control and belittle him, make him less. Mainly wanted to know about Chevalier after last weeks tearful declaration of love. This girl is familiar she was at Henriettes bedside as the princess related the story of her first masked ball to Sophie. Henriettes liver and intestines were found to be badly corrupted, while her duodenum, gall bladder and the lower portion of her abdomen were filled with evil-smelling bile. Point 6: Not her greatest moment, no. I kind of doubt it). He gives as good as he gets and so much worse. Never forget. They look at each other for a moment, until Philippe looks away and mutters, Not that youd remember. Louis thinks, then slowly reaches into his jacket pocket, steps forward and takes Philippes hand then places that stone in the palm. What to expect from the future? In this respect, they are both on fairly equal footing. Spooks), it was no surprise when this drama arrived with a hearty dollop of sex, violence, tension, and intrigue. His grip tightens on the poker, even as Montcourt looks actually shocked at that accusation. He sent poison to Paris, where it passed through several hands before ending up in the jug containing the chicory water. There is your music.. In Paris, says Colbert. We see this SO MANY TIMES it becomes frustrating and sad. Speculation that Henriette had been poisoned began straight away. All I could find were negative. It is a controlled grief. He is the villain if you are looking for one. Pretty sure he was not the one who did the poisoning thing. Hes just having some fun. The two are not mutally exclusive. Did not see this one coming! Is he for or against le roi? Off they stride with purpose and a couple of guards, through the gorgeous corridors (shot in the gorgeous Vaux Le Vicomte) and with ominous background music to set the mood. , Question, did real Louis also love Henriette, or was it unrequited? He was distraught when she died, and was fully intent on punishing those responsible (as poison was indeed thought to have killed her). UGH. No wonder Philippe feels the need to claim what is his. But it is kept behind closed doors. At the time of her death, it was widely believed that Henrietta had been poisoned and the prime suspects were her husband, Philippe and/or his lover, the Chevalier de Lorraine. He sees Louis. And remember you can also start at the beginning and read my reviews of EpisodesOne, Two, Three, Four, Five, Six,Seven,Eight. We found an old building a sorry shack made of stone and moss. The Queen rushes to her side as she collapses and Louis commands Bontemps to fetch his doctor. What if the poison spreads? Is it a bigger crime than boy love? First off let me say that I absolutely love your reviews of Versailles, Ms. Jules. They walk into a salon, where Montcourt is playing cards, and everyone suddenly stops talking when Marchal meets the mans eye. He cares for her, but anytime he has to choose between Chevalier and her, he always choose the former. Also thanks for your detailed and in depth reviews. And dragging Effiat into it too, for a) being a mignon loyal to the Chevalier, and b) his familys involvement in the Fronde, during Louis XIIIs reign. Then he calls for the Guards. And, more importantly, Henriette NEVER RAPED Philippe. It would be an outrageous thought. Yet another possibility is that she had a duodenal ulcer which burst, leading to peritonitis. My sources tell me that sadly, we will have to wait until March 2017 (Yes, NEXT YEAR!!!) The final review of the finaleof Versailles. Ive found some interesting, unedited sources about him and I hope to write very soon a book to make some justice to this very, very mistreated character. It could also be argued that Philippe is relatively powerless, but only where Louis, his older brother and his king, is concerned. What a great mix of observation and humor. And then down by the promontory. Rumourwent that he sent the poison to Effiat in retaliation for Henriette having him banished. You see it in Ep3 where he yells where is MY wife? You see it in Ep2 with his angry speech to Louis: do you tell yourself that when you are fucking MY WIFE? In so many subtle ways Philippe is being demeaned by Louis. The episode starts in Madame de Montespans bed, with Louis awake and staring at the ceiling. Arguably, as a man, it was within Philippes power to end his relationship easily enough whereas Henriette, a woman, would very possibly not have had that same power. Marchal is cool: I am not here to answer you. Sophie is equally cool: Then neither am I. He suggests she reconsider, that she has her life to lose if she doesnt. Because no one knows that Cassel is one of the conspirators (and UGH I dont know WHY the Chevalier just didnt tell Marchal or Louis???) We see a lovely shot of Versailles outside, then cut to the Kings bedchamber, where the flowers and hedges are neatly arranged around to the bed. The rape thing was upsetting. Check back soon for my overview and wrap up of the entire season. And if you reread my words very carefully, you might realise that I never once touched on the legality of it. Though it was true that he was saddened by Henriettes death, I dont felt that he was actually that hell bent on punishing those who were or at least believed to be responsible for her death, due to the lack of evidence among other factors. The camera pans up to show the Queen on her knees in prayer, then a select few further back (I see Colbert, Louvois, Montespan, Sophie, Cassel). After doing an excellent job negotiating an alliance with England against the Dutch (which was then promptly overturned), Henriette returns to Versailles just in time to be poisoned and die in blood-soaked agony. Now we are with Marchal, who is interrogating Henriettes ladies, Sophie included. How accurate is Netflix Versailles? Gaston de Foix was arrested and tortured as the potential poisoner by Fabien. for all of these. b) To show a glimpse of vulnerability for Henriette because for all her power, she is still the property of her husband and can be treated as such. You said everything that should have been pointed out a long time ago, with counterpoints and parallels that shone a light on some arguments and favoritism that , within the context of the show not history, were just mind boggling. Colbert and Louvois look considerably worried. When King Charles hears that his beloved sister has been poisoned in France, it is only a matter of hours before a declaration of war. Louvois: a war they cannot afford to win. Colbert now counsels Louis on the shift of power should Henriette die: Henriettes very existence strengthens your position. Get him out! Henriette cries. Okay, is Louvois just being a dick? What will be his legacy? She is a woman, she is his subject. He goes on to make threats and trouble for her. Right away, I am feeling negative towards them both, and yes, judgey about Henriette. Philippe turns to the guards, stands patiently at the crossed pikes as Louis stares at his back. She seems like she has genuinely been brought in as a main character simply to drive the wedge deeper between Louis and Philippe, but not contribute anything herself to most of her scenes! Montcourt is confused. He should be he has not given up either of their names for the part they played in his arrest. Louis smacks it away with the poker, Marchal steps in, Montcourt grabs a candlestick. Today you get the chance to kill a king! While hes saying this, Marchal behind them is taking out a knife, and suddenly he slides it across the floor, and Louis picks it up, and Montcourt lunges another candlestick is involved.. OMG And then Louis grabs Montcourt from behind and sinks the knife into him! But I still dont get why he doesnt just dob them both in.? Another suggestion is that she had porphyria, although she displayed none of its symptoms. We defended our position from the Spanish all morning and in honour of your distinguished service. A page for describing Characters: Versailles. Hi, She cant honestly say that the death of the man to whom she is shackled in a loveless marriage, who feels no attraction for her and never can but can easily enough rape her, who stands between her and the man she truly loveswouldnt be entirely unwelcome. Yet you heard nothing. And it certainly wasnt the unwavering, steadfast, loyal or constant love that one would most want from a beloved one. We will never know if Louis and Henriette ever did consummate their attraction, but the gossip of the time most definitely swayed in that direction. But lets compare: Henriette is jealous. But for that one unforgivable act, I could have felt real sympathy for that walking, talking mess of dysfunction. And Louis, who is being so totally duped, is convinced by Rohan to take his son, the Dauphin, out to ride, so he is far away from the cries of pain. Philippe is jealous. The steps, the swinging of the arms, the movement of the coat and their cravats. Louvois and Marchal agree. Nup. Bontemps moves her along. They have some banter, and Rohan invites the boy to play a game A game of war? The Dauphin says excitedly. Thanks for reading! Philippe raping his wife. Still, Louis suspicions had been aroused and he ordered an autopsy, which was performed by French doctors and witnessed by others sent from England. Horrible man. A day later, I was hooked. Marchal is surprised but pleased: attracting the flies to the paper. You are both the angels at my shoulder, says Louis, which reminds Marchal of the Parthenays and Montcourt. Anyhow, just wanted to say Even though Henriette had a history of pains (since 1667) and drank only milk and basically ate nothing (she was considered quite a stick in the fashion of the day, and some historians suggest she suffered from anorexia), the poison theory stuck. Art. Philippe strides in slow-mo through the corridors, arms swinging, hair bouncing, coat swaying and with a tight, determined expression on his face. However, Madeleine de Foix, Gaston's mother, defends her son at the salon, but when facing banishment, she stabs Fabien, almost killing him. And here is where Im a bit uncertain, but didnt she make that remark after Philippe raped her? Philippe adds: .or two, perhaps. And he strides off. Such emotion. we then learn Henriette is Philippes wife. As to it appearing that it seems like it almost never happened. *The only voice, your own. He has poisoned all of them. Such an angry outpouring from Louis, however, would have been out of character and no one else reported that he said any such thing. The camera hovers over the prone Henriette then pans up from the bed, like we are her soul being released from her body. UGH D: Hi Jules, I have thoroughly enjoyed reading your reviews as much as I have enjoyed watching Versailles. Henriette, however, happens to be in love with the king and, more importantly, it seems he with her. And Louis weeps. Then Montcourt, the sly little worm, implies that Marchal will cop shit if Henriette dies and no culprit is found, and that Marchals judgement is lacking due to the whole de Clermont thing. When we are the kings enemy, we must make him believe we are his friend. I have heard many say they see angels before they die. (Ahhh! Feel free to comment if any details are wrong. Moreover, two years later, Louis invited Lorraine back to court and into the royal favour, which he would not have done had he believed Lorraine was the murderer. I also cannot figure out why Louis and others speak freely in front of the guards when even they are unsure of their loyalty.. Louis. And Louis is still on a roll, caught up in his speech about grandeur and nobility and the endurance of a legacy: .the song we sing here, brother, I mean it to be played forever. And suddenly, as he stares at Philippe, his face alight with the emotion of a true believer, the cries of Henriette are heard. Oh, and was it common in this era to talk about new marriages literally 2 minutes after your wife/husband died? I love this show <3. A fabulous shot of Versailles under construction and we are back inside, in Louis' chambers conducting business. Thank you so much for your in depth response to my question. I realise that you are not a fan of the historical figure but I am speaking strictly of the character. Louis meanwhile, is disorientated (and by this time I am wondering where the guards are with all this noise, despite Marchal telling them not to disturb them). Sorry to jar you There are just some things I couldnt overlook, and I admit I was looking at Henriettes character so closely, to see if the screenwriters would sweeten her up from her historical figure. For one thing, Anne of Austria, Henriette and the Comtesse de Scissons and even Louis XIV partly himself were in real life all part of a plan to distract the court and other gossip mongers from spreading further lies, gossip, rumors and to provide a cover up for Louis and Henriettes affair which was more of a fling than an actual full fledged affair. He is beyond selfish and his cruel behaviour is at the root of all of their misery. The fact that she could feel anything at all for him (beyond disgust) by the end surprises me. This doesnt do good for her position, unloved by her husband and no one would stand at her side, should French and English go to war. However, lets assume they are both equally dire sins. Plus he told Louis he didnt recognise the sender of the notes which is technically true. In perfect sync. She causes her father distress, embarasssment, hurt. plus its almost as if he has something to say, to hide. #JesusTakeTheWheel What a scene. You dont get to my age and experience with your naivete still intact. If Id been in her shoes, I think Id have given a flat affirmative. A European history-geek friend told me about this show yesterday, so I binge watched the entire series. The best visual of the whole episode. SYNC. . Basically he can do what he wants, but she is not allowed to. When Marchal goes down and Montcourt takes the knife, Louis lunges, some more fighting with Marchal again entering the fray.. and then OMG Marchal is stabbed!!! again, another shagging time between Henriette and Louis, when Louis friends have been murdered and she mentions the fact she was jealous of the dead woman. Do you honestly think that just because certain abusesatrocities, evenwere acceptable, that those on the receiving end didnt feel anger, pain, violation, etc. I also read your discussion between yourself and Teresa about episode 10. These reactions perfectly suit and says a lot to their characters, plus George Blagden and Alex Vlahos as hugely talented actors. Neither of them showed much interest or affection for the other, both clearly preferring their lovers. She is later arrested as the poisoner as her son is released, but ridiculed from court. Toodles. Exactly. I dont know how others look at Henriettas character, but to me, shes just trying to survive and continue loving the man she loves, which is Louis. The Dauphin. Montcourt looks nervous, says he doesnt know what he means. She doesnt want to speak of him. Claudine tries to give her something for the pain but she wont swallow, her throat is closing up. He was brought up and ruled as absolute monarch, and believed for the good of France. In the show Philippe tries time and again to offer his support and love, but is constantly betrayed or rejected (this happened with the historical figures, too. But she is human and she can feel jealousy and make inappropriate remarks at inappropriate moments. Claudine confirms: We have no choice. Slavery was also an accepted practice of the day. The only protection offered is by Louis. Once again, Louis behaviour, as reported here, is uncharacteristic. I respect the fact that two people can look at the same thing and see it from completely different angles and come away with completely different interpretations. Oh, Louis most definitely would choose France over his brother. Yes, of course its common knowledge that Louis is shagging Henriette. NOT AT ALL acceptable in the eyes of pretty much everyone. Versailles 2015 - S01E10 - Bring the Garden Here (High MP4) (WEBM) (Aired: 14 Dec. 2015) Duchess Henriette becomes suddenly ill when she returns from a visit to her brother in England. Now she is in a marriage that will never give her any joy with a man she does not love and she should risk displeasing her lover, the king, by rejecting him? After Philippe shoots a couple rounds into the air he tells Louie, Brother we must go, the wolves will come back and there will be more. Did you have the same thought as I; that while in the moment the characters are talking about the actual wolves, the underlying message is about Louis and the traitors in his midst, starting with Moncourt. While your character and scene analyses tend to differ quite a bit from my own (perhaps because of that?? Charming. Then, as they both walk through the salon (Vaux de Vicomte again) and to the doors, the guards bar their way and Louis enters. Brilliant writing. Montcourt to Marchal: You are a fool. Louis replies: And you are a MURDERER! Montcourt continues with the wrong man thing, but Louis will have none of it. Romantic wouldnt work, but she could become a protge of his. I like the show, the actors and the plot. I just discovered Versailles this week and watched it in quick succession!!! BRILLIANT acting. Philippe looks up to Louis with wet puppy eyes, Louis looks at Philippe, his all flinty and hard. I cant always catch what is being said, particularly if it an aside or a whisper but I know you will tell me . First off, let me preface my response with the qualifier that I know very little about the historical figures on which these characters are based. Not Marchal! Her confessor, however, urged her to accuse no one but to make her death an offering to God. Is anyone else hoping Fabien takes her under his wing? Only Versailles is now about as sexy as Robot Wars. UGH, Henriette. Colbert looks a bit stunned. She could have answered with an honest yes but she evades the question. Versailles (TV Series 2015-2018) cast and crew credits, including actors, actresses, directors, writers and more. And we came here for a visit. Just airing in the U.S. and Im having surgery Friday so I dont know if Ill catch it. Im going to be stalking these recaps in the arduous wait for season two. Protocol demands that he stays, Philippe says tightly. While it seems like shes being unfair to Philippe, he doesnt really put up an effort to make himself lovable most of the time. Lovely. The midwife and doctor were horrified but there was nothing she could do!!! On the other hand, Ive never doubted for a moment Philippes loyalty to his brother or his love for him. We now join Rohan with the Dauphin, riding out with the Kings Guard. I know historically Philippe did leave Versailles for a time, but season two Louis without Philippe will be interesting because while Louis takes shots at him every chance he gets, at the end of the day Philippe is the only true person around him besides Bontemps. You did this to her. Louis looks shocked: Brother. Philippe will have none of it: We warned you. After all, everything she did was unacceptable at that time for women and it was certainly acceptable to beat a woman, especially if she was a wife, sister or daughter. Louis finally nods to the guards, the pikes are uncrossed and Philippe takes a breath and walks out without a backwards glance.The Chevalier gives him a few feet head start, then strolls after him, hands behind his back, not looking at Louis, not bowing. even if it turned out his brother was the poisoner. YAAAAAY! See production, box office & company info. And in 1671 during Louis three day visit to the Prince de Conds Chteau de Chantilly, the Master of Festivities and Pleasures Franois Vatel killed himself over the late delivery of fish, and Louis was quickly hustled away (as shown in the wonderful 2000 Gerard Depardieu movie, Vatel)), So we see Claudine striding to the bedchamber but her way is barred. Duchess Henriette becomes suddenly ill when she returns from a visit to her brother in England. Says you made me marry him. I am sobbing. Now, if she had been his second cousin, and never saw each other until she married his brother, then I can maybe see them having an affair. Back with Marchal, interrogating Louvois this time. In which case, I dont blame her one bit! Montcourt is stabbed by Louis XIV while facing off with him and Fabien Marchal. Then he turns and suddenly a Man In a Mask is standing there. Henriette says to Philippe: Im sorry. We see his offer to help refused time and time again. Henriette screams and they both surge to the door then suddenly stop. As for Philippe, I cant make out what he is. Its really sad, she could have been a great queen with Louis (he might not be faithful to her, but they will have live better than now), but the turns of fate, made her his brothers wife instead. Hold onto this moment, I told you. As she made her last confession, the English ambassador, Lord Montagu, asked Henriette if she believed she had been poisoned. FOCUS. Montcourt denies it: No, Sire. Henriette, Duchesse dOrlans, the sister-in-law of Louis XIV, took a drink of her usual chicory water and immediately clutched her side, crying out in pain. He rapes his wife. Today, speculation has attributed Henriettes death to intestinal blockage, ectopic pregnancy or tuberculosis affecting the peritoneum. and Nine. Not only did they grow up together but they were first cousins and Louis was a devout Catholic. He tucks Louis in then gets into his small cot (that looks like a camping bed), fully clothed. . No doubt those in Philippes camp played on that too, to taint Henriette even more (Guiche UGH. We could never invade the entire world but the world can imagine us as their centre. Hi Jules, I must thank you for your detailed writeup of all ten episodes of Versailles. Saint-Simon asserted that Louis was so thankful that his brother was innocent of the crime that he decided not to prosecute the perpetrators. Montcourts eyes drop to Louis hand and suddenly he pulls a knife. Henriette says to Philippe: Im sorry. When we are far away, we must make him believe we are near. Quite a few. Then he says I pay you to spy on others, not on me. . IDK??? I thought so but no. What the king wants, the king gets. It is always Louis for her. Even Louis at this stage is getting sick of it and announces he is going to war. The moment stretches and Claudine shakes her head: she will not survive the poison. We see a shot of Philippe and Louis: Philippe is stunned and mega sad. We see Henriette asleep in the bed. Should Claudine be villified for showing up her father? Kill him, then me, and blame it on him. And laudanum as a sedative was much used at the time. "Versailles" and I met by chance on Netflix. Pot, meet kettle. I know this coming years later, but to Theresa THANK YOU SO MUCH. Eww. By this stage both Henriette and Marie Thrse of Spain now knew what it felt like to be jilted and cast aside in your loved ones affections by another attractive court lady. Despite being a dab hand at treating people who have been poisoned, the doc announces that she . From the bed, Henriette says pitifully, Dont leave me and straight away, we know who that is aimed at. (Historical note: mistresses were in competition with each other all the time, poison was effective and the murderer didnt have to deal with the messiness. Duchess Henriette becomes suddenly ill when she returns from a visit to her brother in England.
Penndot Pub 70 Sight Distance, Broadsword Vs Claymore Dark Souls 3, The Grand Hotel Breakfast Menu, Florida Man September 21, 1999, Indocement Bumn Atau Bukan, Articles W