Of course Matt Wisdom was disoriented and he was associated with Pixel SQUID bankruptcy. For example, I ran into this this morning. If anything buyers should get lots of points for buying. I'm just dreading that sober moment when TS offers to buy CGT to kill off the competition. We've been there, even being "Squid Guild exclusive" for some time to test the experience ourselves for real, and after more than 10 years with all our experiences and stats in hand we can state without a doubt that the business model offered by Turbosquid doesn't pay off in the mid-long term. But i think CGT nows that pretty well, that's why they decided to bring changes in royalty policy and hopefully they will steer additional cash flow towards making this stock market more attractive to the buyers. Bottom line is if people are used to buying from TS they won't buy here because they need to use a different system so let's create our own client base. So, CGT is the best guys ! CGtrader website is much bather coded and it just need some time to get on top. It is also my favorite 3D site but some things need to be fixed before they can overtake some of the other sites. If you have any questions about these items before you purchase, please contact us at https://support.turbosquid.com/ If there is a problem they will fix it for you. I'm glad CGtrader and its community of supporters is able to make this situation come to an end. Hell, I even remember writing years ago to Matt Wisdom (TS Founder & CEO), Beau Perschall (VP of Business Dev) and other people at the management staff about the "no-brainer" choice for sellers regarding going exclusive into the "Squid Guild" or not, because after a group of sellers collected our stats and compared our earnings (for similar periods of time being exclusive and not) all of us ended with the clear conclusion that we were losing revenue being exclusive to TS instead of selling in all markets no single answer was received from any TS management staff member. The classic idea of exclusivity, division and concealment as a strategy to get to a monopolistic position is bad for the industry and everyone is coming to the realization how bad it rely is. I'm even considering seriously closing my store here. You could say CGt is a service platform that harbors and connects sellers and buyers of specific digital goods, in theory there's no limit to how much people and their digital products/services they could connect. TS has terrible support, i had stupid responses from them during my interaction with them. If anyone has been to New York they will have noticed that Fao Swartz a toy store in the center of Manhattan is creating 3D printable action figures. royalty scale you work up on is all very cool the fact you can print here sell files here and stream files all on one listing CG TRADER FOR THE WIN!!! In regards to product awareness and marketing it is also nice to have some special user cases to show off, there is no room to collect user case data in the Ts model. Yes, sometimes your points are not displayed for a day or two, but there were problems with the rating of models. CG trader is the first helpfull professional website I've seen in 20 years. I think the TS percentage is pretty much an outrage considering the low price of the products being sold. Hey there, It is the best RR in the world ! Exclusivity to any marketplace has been proved a revenue loss. It is likely that people will want to try out new things in their stores from time to time. Thingiverse remains the king for licensing, as you can transfer the licence within the site. You have insufficient credit to complete your purchase. So many more buyers would actually have a look at what they have because sometimes you want to buy a special toy Also the management is awkward on TS. Then there is the stupid "reputation" point issue. They recently changed their search engine over there and when you search for Free models it comes up with a few free ones and many more paid ones so from that perspective Turbosquid makes your life even harder lol. I agree with Captainmarlowe than one of the most important ideas to develop is more "education" for Sellers about all aspects involved in this business, and some kind of system that favors good and fair business practices and penalizes bad ones. We've been doing business with Turbosquid for more than 10 years until our very public issues last year: http://www.nonecg.com/turbosquid/turbosquid_nonecg.htm. Downside at CGTrader is as i've just been informed from Support is NO you can't sell the licence here and transfer it into another users name. You want to put it in your store but it obviously needs some work to make it marketable. just needs more publicity.. us designers need to market the site with our products at the rate one of my designs is going ill have more facebook likes/shares than the website itself has on one design There are indeed some snags in data management and the sorting out system. We'll let you know about that soon - all CGT sellers will receive via email, so stay tuned! Let me explain - I like the look of the models here, but the site is even designed so end users, like me, can't even download more that 10 "free" items unless they've uploaded models of their own, written tutorials, posted topics to the forum (which is difficult if you're not an actual modeler) and/or jumped through about 1,500 other ridiculous hoops to get enough "reputation" points. ! A possible solution for potential buyers looking to sample the work of sellers, would be for sellers to have their free sample models at a low minimal price instead of free. The stores/collections idea sounds good but maybe a simpler voting system for any product/seller will give an easy ranking system to take in count for search results among other factors. The response back was, if they are not adjusted end of the week then we will adjust them. In one case, the model is promising, commercial, and then set a high price. Offering customers best prices on TurboSquid is mandatory for all artists publishing on TurboSquid. @tomislavveg, on the one hand i agree with you about that, but on the other hand if i would be looking for models i would almost certainly choose TS as my first choice and most likely as a last one before buying. Work directly with a 3D artist for your project. Yeah nasty stuff, but hey, I better shut up because I'm one of the hypocrites that keeps supporting that place by having my work on it. There is other sellers that don't have any problem doing the same: I am huge fan of the CGT team because they really try hard to make us happy. I did not know about that. Toys (212) Buy or download free 3D models for your CG projects, film and video production, animation, visualizations, games, VR/AR, and others. They should make more effort to advertise. Buyer can contact seller directly, which can save him/her lot's of time and frustrations. I think we just need so some massive killer models of epic proportions that the 3D modeling community cant ignore. It certainly is an interesting read all together, thanks for documenting it so well and make the whole thing public, although I hope you don't stay embarked on a power struggle whit Ts management. Honestly, who wants to buy nudes anyway? I've often (not just at this site) downloaded "free" items to verify their quality before purchasing models from a vendorI had problems with 3-4 of the "free" items I looked at first here (having no idea there was a limit), and now I can download no more. Login to PayPal to add your account as a payment method. (so you basically pay for a fraud protection system for people hoe sell themselves out exclusively). I am going to start a list to promote artists who are making great models but just aren't getting the views. Turbosquid immediately shuts any links down. Hi John, you made very valid points. Gumroad. Be very wary when the artist is from India or other similar countries. Its great way to compete and fair . 3D Model characters people woman This is a photorealistic high-quality 3D full-body scan female character It has been sculpted and optimized for animation and game engines with a clean topology. This would be a really good way of encouraging buyers to come spend their money on CGtrader where they can find what they want faster than on other sites. Money in short term does not always pay of in long run. I started uploading on a few sites and TS was one of them and I can tell you now that that place is a mess. To my repliers: We want to improve the site not make it worse :). Without checkmate Turbosquid would have gone out of business. Maybe it is unnecessary complex? A man can dream on :]. I deleted my products here and joined sguild again, no reason for staying here. In this case you could say (in a nutshell) CGt is (at its core) acting as a hub providing file hosting and transaction services, and it can basically do so whit everything digital. Thingiverse has allowed licenses to be transferred into another users name, which is very important option if you want to invent something and sell the ownership, else your stuck with it forever. Thanks for dropping by and great news about an eventual homepage re-design. [google][http://www.google.com|google4 ] I think John Hoagland already pointed out very well the most direct benefits of doing business with Cgtrader over Turbosquid. High hopes for Cgtrader. After 60 days, we will put your content back online. "that is where the big money can be", being able to part with an invention has value. This use is prohibited if the virtual world-type is an open MMO, like Second Life. I'm suggesting a collective of store owners. Contact your Shutterstock Customer Success Manager, $10,000 in Legal Protection (Indemnification), Uncapped Legal Protection (Indemnification), $1,000,000 in Legal Protection (Indemnification), $250,000 in Legal Protection (Indemnification). @skifx, apparently your feeding hand is just too small. I see no point in closing when you might as well keep it open and get a couple sales. There is a lamp that looks pretty cool (Gervasoni Bolla Floor light), and is supposedly free. First of all make great and spectacular models for it and promote it on forums, facebook, linkedin groups and forums. Any more than 500,000 polygons in one scene and that will make opening and closing it a really long process not to mention that if you trying to animate something in the scene you may have to keep hiding things in various layers or create the animation in a separate one. I don't know if that is still the case ( and I have no desire to check ) but that is advertising that is hard to beat. I will search on TS and when found right model I will maybe look at cgtrader if there is that same model for cheaper. Better for who? (I forgot to put TS up). The system would make a seller more responsible and promote a culture of diversification (in theory). This is the Tesla Model 3. I think I like the another item the modeler has created (Modern Villa), but that item is $40. I'll ask my friend to get in touch with you for the unsolved support, as I think it is him who has to do that - not me. I still get more sales on TS, despite having adjusted all prices to compensate their extortions. 3dsky.org2. I'm even considering seriously closing my store here. 2. At the moment i think its more a community of sellers and not so much of buyers. It makes you blind and clueless to how a customer is actually using your product and how well it integrates in his business and future activities. We at NoneCg think that both CGtrader and Sellers will benefit from the exact opposite policy. I would expect those kinds of charges from a real art gallery with real world space that could sell my work for 10,000 a pop, not some virtual space that sells my work for 50 bucks. Buyer can contact seller directly, which can save him/her lot's of time and frustrations. Cgtrader user interface is much more user friendly. So in this case you could say we are the asses and there's lots of us so we form a huge ass and CGt can place many chairs for us to sit on ;-) CGTrader. Turbosquid has a bot spying cgtrader prices. I didn't checked it for a while (around a year) but comparatively Cgtrader has a much more streamlined upload system compared to Turbosquid's. That thing is just getting started ;-). Also, the problem comes from the sellers, not the site designers, for a large part. This place is indeed different and allot closer to what we actually need, I can't imagine the core principal on witch this place is founded would change as it will prove to be the one and only way to be future proof in this supper connected world. Because of its design and trade/royalty system, CGTrader seems better and more advantageous, but at the end of the day, I get much more income from Turbosquid and The3Dstudio. It needs to be obvious where to go if you want one or the other. Market your products turbo squid does that for you i understand but if your trying to sell you have to show the customers where its at. That's how they won and that is how you succeed in business. rigged People SixPack 003 - Photogrammetry Population Character Rig, max blend c4d xsi ma lwo 3ds dae dxf fbx obj X, City People x500 Static Poses Lowpoly ArchViz, 20x LOW POLY CASUAL ELEGANT SITTING WOMAN MAN PEOPLE CROWD, Naked Fitness Blonde Woman with Tied Hair, max c4d unitypackage upk max ma c4d max ma fbx max. So even if TS takes 60%, I still make better profit there because here I get 94% of nothing. Plus, if you express constructive ideas on the forums, you know you'll get listened to. You are clearly one of the professional buyers who doesn't take advantage of the system but there are so many out there who do that and 3D sites are beginning to try to safe guard their artist's work by not making it so easy to just get everything you want for free. Doesn't seem so. Another thing that makes CGT better than TS is the friendships that one is able to make within the artist community. The longing to justice is something that cannot be eradicated, the hole of human history shows that clearly. My initial stance on this was, ok fine then my Ts account can stay up for those few that seemingly do not know anything ells outside of Ts. Maybe some people don't want to bother about different programs compatibility, while others don't mind to spent time configuring things in different applications. Luckily, non of my sells on TS were refunded so far and i had 3 refunds on CGT, 2 of them was caused by technical reasons from CGT side. For myself, long live CGTrader and may they keep their principles as they grow. Add a Payment Method, Add a Payment I can easily imagine that serious clients who value their time very high, might choose TS over CGT without second thought. I left all but . However, fear of losing sales kept me both on Ts and CGt for long time (not liked it). There are currently no models in your cart. Similar thing happened to me,that's why i'm at CGtrader full time now. Got my model (https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/furniture/cabinet/handles-vol-01-pbr) @captainmarlowe Thanks a lot for a lot of valid points regarding search and categorization! disavantages: low budget clients willing to get low quality models for 5$. [http://www.google.com|google11] I'm a bit afraid there's always going to be issues that leaves this community divided, leaving CGpeople with a platform not able to live up to its full potential and leaving 3D print people with a platform not living up to its full potential either. CGTrader will have to do so at some point, or people in search of quality models will simply avoid it. - Crowdfunding to improve the CGtrader presence in the market. Our "power struggles" with Turbosquid stopped the moment Matt Wisdom banned our account and we stoped doing business, however that doesn't alter our will to expose this kind of business practices. You have insufficient credit to complete your purchase. it is a sad reality, some sellers are ready to buy a model of their competitor to post a bad rating. Gritsuk : Hello Friends, glad to present you my model Female Hand Realistic. Especially if the buyer asks to change something in the configuration of models or to clarify details. Welcome to Eduvance Youtube Channel.Technology Leadership Program lecture series focuses on imparting knowledge to school students about new technologies lik. . https://garagedoorrepairnewportnews.com/garage-door-spring-repair/, Hey, A: TurboS*swearword-here* will start to DOWNTICK PRICES to match them to "other selling sites" on customer complaint, so I will remove every model they demand for down-adjustment, and I'm sure I won't be alone in this. ,,The only thing that has cgtrader extra is the freelance job,,?? Gumroad is an awesome virtual marketplace where artists can create their own store and sell any type of digital asset, from textures to tutorial series. Noise Treshold: If that is the case then better not to become exclusive! From moment I have enough things to sell here, I would come clean with myself and close my TS account with great pleasure. Brittney And therefore it doesnt matter where it is. If they can sell on craigslist, amazon, ebay, walmart, target, toysrus etc Of course they would only sell the 3D printable toys there, either to be printed or already printed then yes all of a sudden 3D printing would be come more relavant and profitable. I left the turbosquid from Diamond level . This way we let buyers know that cgtrader got some interesting stuff. A serious problem indeed about Turbosquid is its policy of setting up barriers to avoid having a direct link to customers (this includes banning of al communication technologies). Sales site defending exclusivity trying to find ways to seduce (like the famous CheckMate) but this has no return. When pressed, Turbosquid could give no clearer specification than "it is too similar". At one hand I could think this was indeed evidence that Ts had some clients that do not know about CGt. Why is CGTrader better? What I mean is CGt isn't rely making products, it is offering a sales platform and leaves the problem salving involving product issues (between sellers and buyers) to the product developers themselves (in theory) and in doing so minimizing/reducing overhead in sales. Apart from this it would be nice to have a system that promotes collaborative action to make the products themselves better. Every vendor who is exclusive is losing money and customers. Escorts jaipur I'm really happy to see CGTrader growing. Full collections of objects for 12 bucks is NOT okay. 3D Model jimmy choo. Maybe there is something behind the scenes what you can't know or can't tell? just 2 years ago still existed. I'm about to bail on this site now - unless I can find any other topics that I might be qualified to post toapparently if I'm friendly enough I can earn some points, but it's seriously unlikely that I'll find any topics to which I can actually contribute. or I can just sell on cgt and artstationm marketplace? I wish someday Turbosquid disappear or bankrupt. Some while ago someone (if he is real, can't even verify that) bought my snakebot model on Ts and he posted a nice comment. He earns trust in this way and we know everything stands or falls with the coming and going of trust. Determining the optimal cost of the models is an important and difficult moment. https://vimeo.com/739678 While sellers will be disadvantaged in many interests. I can think up multiple scenarios to try get a grip on it but I don't actually care anymore. I also think, as iterateCGI, the market control based on exclusivity will soon disappear. Ebay it's ALL about direct seller/customer relationship. I really think that a "designer good practices charter" or something like that could help. [link="http://www.google.com"]google1[/link] In this case the fastest support can not help. CGTrader just doesn't have the exposure it needs yet to top Turbosquid but I am confident it will surpass it in time because of the quality of it's products but word of mouth is key in this business and people need to be talking more about them. Selling 3D models on Ebay or Amazon would probably generate problems? Difference in quality of search results is shockingly vast in favor of TS. And to be fair, you will never get exact 40% from squid either, because they have payout fees too and also they withold certain amount from US purchases. You can enter multiple email addresses separated by commas, Thank you for shopping at TurboSquid. They then review the model and contact seller to fix it. This is hight quality female model with animation friendly topology. It is pretty awesome!!! It doesn't matter if the printing industry is growing fast. They had shoddy products but they created the illusion of having something amazing and that was better than a PC. Important only is that there buy many people. We made this limitation to protect our designers from leechers who download hundreds of free models and then try to monetize them in some other way. A client would normally ALWAYS choose a cheaper price, that's a law of nature. I want to say the following. Best of luck to cg trader, they have a great business model and site, it is just going to be incredibly difficult to take any of the market share from such a well established company. In place already. Imagine how much resorces and efforts are used by those clowns for this greedy Best price quality nonsense. stores with its own labels for 3D printing, 3D stock, crowdfunding, game models maybe even concept designs, sound files, storytellers, code for making apps, 3D scripts, etc) Each of this stores would then again have subcategories (e.g. We even stopped publishing new models there. My response was, not going to do that, its my work I decide the price. Order 3D models. - Explaining on a personal basis to certain designers, even under banning threat, that creating very basic objects afters tutorials and selling them for 10$ with comments like : "my best model ever" will only hamper CGTrader credibility ; also that taking a poser or DAZ model, posing it (or even rigging it) in another software and adding a few details to it is still an obvious copyright infringements, if not a simple steal cgtrader is far better than turbosquid in my opinion coz cgtrader offer 80% royalti payment and turbo only give you 40% royalti payment which is sad. See ourPrivacy Policyfor more information. It might be a good idea to see what the customer experience is with various market places by making an experimental purchase at each and seeing who has the most effective methods of enticing return visits and encouraging word-of-mouth bumps. I do not know if community-policing has helped other sites keep their products better organized. Everything is more and more coming down to individual levels of very friendly and much more human communication. Over the years they have shown me that they really care about we think about the way things should be run and they have been adapting the website based on our combined ideas. - CGTrader pays immediately; TS waits until the end of the month. And even if you sell the same models on other side you can advertise them as being the cheapest here. Thus by searching to widen its audience, the buyer only decrease the site credibility. Thank you again! I'm planing to start new discussion on this topic in near future, so i won't go into details here, i'll just ask did anybody tried to enter same keywords in TS and CGT search field? I tried to edit the obj for him and renounced because of the bad quality, especially, UVs and material names that were impossible to edit, such as mat000_0571 and other flaws ; he also bought a model of a bad quality from TS but was offered a refund immediately even on a sunday ; he posted his experience on our forum ; needless to say that others members of this community won't consider, now, CGTrader as a top quality website), same with people starting everyday a new irrelevant thread on the forums just to take advantage of the reputation system, which was a good idea, but which was hijacked by some unscrupulous sellers. Honestly I feel that it would be better to sell n bit slower that to have your models stolen. I will very much want to peruse. I have been studying their website from a buyers perspective thoroughly and I have noticed that; 1. I like how there is no join up fee. You have to realize that TS is recognized by autodesk and even had a direct tab link to their site in max itself. A little more than a year passed since our public disagreement with Turbosquid policies and behavior that ended our relationship as content creator and reseller. On "woman", print-ready jewels and scanned models again come in the way. You are just providing a platform." Considering it as a seller, CGtrader is NOT better because I have almost no sales at all while I have about 10 sales every month on TS. Maybe I live in an unrealistic parallel reality, where at least some people still have some dignity and know how and when to differentiate good vs evil and take a public stand with actions instead of just words. TurboSquid has stopped working in WM and lost some buyers in the middle East countries and Asia. That takes longer time. Thank you. Hello, Ts has always been an overly expensive service and its not that good at all compare to its cost. Ps. with the recent requirements to upload a 3D product on TS, CGT became my number one no doubt, i'm not gonna wast half my life rendering turntables that wouldn't make much of a difference when every seller is doing the same thing. Thanks for your feedback, it really makes sense. (e.g. Yes CGtrader is great! If any of you think this is a show of strength from Matt Wisdom and his Corporate brother Andy, think twice. They call that "3D Industry" on the download report .. it's rare but it's happend (one time for me) I was ,,Diamond ,, since 2008, they stole items and they never gave me the money . etc This is why: When you just start out you have to price your models at 1 dollar or give them away for free but the second you start selling well they take your models offline and force you to raise your prices Once you raise your prices nobody buys and you are back to square 1. and we lived the evolution of Turbosquid from being a pioneer of the 3D assets market working alongside the real content developers to become a typical corporation with financial backing from angel investors that only cares about financial results and is trying to strive the 3D market towards a monopoly where they can control both the producers and the customers, where acting as just a middleman gets Turbosquid the most profit from both. My opinions have evoluted over the months. :). At some point in the past both Turbosquid and The3DStudio had to get through a huge cleansing of their site and removed thousands of objects that were hampering their credibility. taken offline. In my personal opinion TS is working very hard towards buyers and exploits sellers as much as they can, well except few chosen ones, while CGT is taking great care about sellers, but leaving buyers somewhat aside. And some may post a part of a set, and ad a link to the complete set, others may just do it to spread their work and name, etc. Doesnt matter the kind of kinky-dinky stuff the platform provides me. Prices do not include additional fees, such as shipping . A good ref point is that your average laptop with Dual Pentium 2 gigahertz processor 8 GB of ram will start having issues when running over 200,000 polygons. So even if TS takes 60%, I still make better profit there because here I get 94% of nothing. Site issues? Payment Method Don't know how many even bother to ask, and on Ts no one can ask anything. Chat with Support 24/7 It's the artist that need to make a stand and simply take the short term loss from less traffic and exposure and join the marketplace that respects the artists. If you're searching for a regular model, you have to click on the little icon "CG models", but nothing changes on the page when you do so.
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